Finding IDP Trade Values In Fantasy Football Leagues
April 9, 2020 No Comments 2020 IDP Cornerstone Content, Article Gary Van Dyke

Welcome to the Finding IDP Trade Values In Fantasy Football Leagues article guide, where we’ll address one of the most common questions when addressing fantasy football’s IDP values. And we’re laying out a single method we can use for the best approach to getting the most out of trading players on the defensive side of the ball.

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Finding IDP Trade Values Intro


As an IDP writer active on Twitter, some of the most popular questions I get include IDP player trade evaluations. They can be as simple as IDP players straight up for each other or include multiple items, including offensive players and draft picks. And as much as I enjoy helping fantasy football owners, there are simple steps to self evaluate trade offers. And do it in a way that is focused on their leagues set up. Whereas asking advice leaves a margin of error because whoever is being asked isn’t looking at the entire picture.

Simply said, we don’t have full access to your league and do not have a clue of the exact format overall. And even if we ask a lot of key questions, only the owner has a true feel for the overall picture in any league setup. After all, there are a ton of ways to set up leagues, and critiquing the trade offers varies based on those settings. So let’s go over a few simple steps finding IDP values in leagues on an individual basis. And help to element some of that margin of error that occurs and empowers a fantasy football IDP owner in the process.

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The Baseline Method

Does the trade involve just IDP players? Or does it include offensive players and/or current year draft picks? This baseline method will evaluate those scenarios all in a matter of a few steps. The only thing it won’t directly cover is the mindset of the other owner involved in a trade offer. But it can assist you in using your gut to evaluate that owners view on IDP values in negotiations. And IDP owners applying this will find out just how simple it can be, leaving some to wonder what all the debating is about. The only drawback, it might have to be explained to get the point across, giving up the IDP edge.

First Step


 

After the league is 100% set up, locate the league’s player projections. There is one thing to keep in mind while you do, in 99% of the cases, fantasy football owners normally prefer to lean heavier on offensive players and draft pick values.

 

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Second Step


 

Sort the projections by ALL the players in the league, setting up an overview of all designated positions. And in the process, it will list them by rank and gives owners an idea of the upcoming season’s production for each player based on the league’s format.

 

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Third Step X3 Scenarios

Note: Be sure to follow up in the closing, where we explain more and add “keeping in mind” thoughts on each of the individual Third Steps.


 After the above steps, we should have something that resembles the following projection rankings. And we can see for our purposes, I have replicated a portion of projection rankings for the examples. So now we’ll apply a visitation exercise in step three, to assist in finding IDP values in individual leagues.


 

Visualizing Tiers 

Basically, the amount of teams in the league roughly determines the number of players in each tier. And we’ll want to visualize those tiers accordingly to these examples.

  1. 10 team league: Tier One – players 1 to 10, Tier Two – players 11 to 21, Tier Three – players 22 to 32, and so on.
  2. 12 team league: Tier One – players 1 to 12, Tier Two – players 13 to 25, Tier Three – players 26 to 38, and so on. 
  3. 14 team league: Tier One – players 1 to 14, Tier Two – players 15 to 29, Tier Three – players 30 to 44, and so on.

 

IDP For IDP

So let’s hypothetically say that a trade offer is on the table for two IDP players straight up. We would locate both players and see where they both fall while thinking of it in terms of tiers within this specific league. Which can be mentally visualized simply based on the ranking numbers versus the number of teams in the league.

So, if IDP “player A” is in tier one, and IDP “player B” is in tier three, the owner of “player A” should, in theory, expect some form of compensation in the trade.


 

IDP For Offensive Player

This example is in orange in the sample projections because it is likely the toughest scenario IDP owners face in trade offers.

The offer, Cowboy’s linebacker Jaylon Smith for Packer’s running back Aron Jones. And it’s the same concept as IDP For IDP. Locate the players, figure out the tier, and in this case be sure to examine and not overlook the projected points.

Technically in this example, Smith is separated pending a possible tier point, but the point difference versus positions warrant an even deal. All based on scoring set up and league format in fantasy value.

But hypothetically, let’s say the offensive player would have been either above or below Smith by a nice margin of a tier or two. 

Technically, in this case, someone would owe someone some compensation to get the deal done. Letting the tier and/or points difference help the owners decide on said compensation.


 

IDP For Draft Picks

These will work the same as it did with the other scenarios, but we suggest doubling the tier ranges via the league size. So where we visualized 10 teams with the first tier being the top ten, we are taking the league size of 10 and now multiply it by 2.

  1. 10 team league: Tier One – players 1 to 20, Tier Two – players 21 to 41, Tier Three – players 42 to 62, and so on.
  2. 12 team league: Tier One – players 1 to 24, Tier Two – players 25 to 49, Tier Three – players 50 to 74, and so on. 
  3. 14 team league: Tier One – players 1 to 28, Tier Two – players 29 to 57, Tier Three – players 58 to 82, and so on.

The same routine, find the player versus the pick offered, and technically the upper hand to which item holds the pending value is determined by who initiates the trade offer.


 
Don’t Forget And More!

The tiers are by ALL overall player projection rankings. And it isn’t out of the question to use this method if the players happen to be the same designated position. Simply by just sorting by the individual position, instead of the overall. Same concept and same result in finding a baseline.

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Projection Sample Note

The following projection ranking examples are based on a balanced IDP to offensive player format. And it may not reflect the standard that most leagues are set up as. Because it is this writer’s experience that IDP gets the short end of the scoring stick nine times out of ten when being formatted. But don’t be concerned, your league’s projections will reflect the individual league’s setup and format. 


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Rank 23 – Chiefs TE Travis Kelce
 
YEAR
 TAR 
REC 
YDS 
AVG 
TD 
CAR 
YDS 
TD 
FPTS
 2019
136
97
1229
12.7
5
1
4
1
256
 2020
128
92
1148
12.5
9
2
6
0
262
 
 
 
YEAR
 TAR 
REC 
YDS 
AVG 
TD 
CAR 
YDS 
TD 
FPTS
 2019
127
83
997
12.0
5
0
0
0
214
 2020
145
95
1212
12.7
8
0
0
0
261
 
 
 
Rank 25 – Cowboys LB Jaylon Smith
 
YEAR
FF
FR
INT
SCK
TKA
TT
PD
FPTS
2019
2
1
1
3
59
142
9
248
2020
2
1
2
2
56
146
9
260
 
 
 
Rank 26 – Buccaneers WR Chris Goodwin
 
YEAR
 TAR 
REC 
YDS 
AVG 
TD 
CAR 
YDS 
TD 
FPTS
2019
120
86
1333
15.5
9
1
8
0
288
2020
137
93
1267
13.7
7
0
0
0
260
 
 
 
Rank 27 – Giants LB Blake Martinez
 
YEAR
FF
FR
INT
SCK
TKA
TT
PD
FPTS
2019
1
0
1
3
58
155
2
268
2020
1
1
0
2
57
152
2
258
 
 
 
Rank 28 – Seahawks LB Bobby Wagner
 
YEAR
FF
FR
INT
SCK
TKA
TT
PD
FPTS
2019
1
1
1
3
73
159
6
267
2020
1
1
1
2
56
147
6
258
 
 
 
Rank 29 – Buccaneers WR Mike Evans
 
YEAR
 TAR 
REC 
YDS 
AVG 
TD 
CAR 
YDS 
TD 
FPTS
2019
115
67
1157
17.3
8
0
0
0
240
2020
143
81
1233
15.3
9
0
0
0
255
 
 
 
Rank 30 – Packers RB Aron Jones
 
YEAR
 CAR 
YDS 
AVG 
TD 
REC 
YDS 
TD 
FPTS
2019
236
1084
4.6
16
49
474
3
316
2020
215
959
4.5
11
45
370
2
255
 
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Third Step Descriptions And Things To Keep In Mind About Finding IDP Values

We’ll address the obvious about this method before we go on and add some thoughts to the Third Steps. And that is that the method to find a baseline to find the IDP values won’t be perfect. Simply because all owners look at things differently, and opinions do vary.

So right or wrong, just know that I’ve personally been using this method for a very long time. But it’s a baseline based on projected production giving us a starting point instead of shooting from the hip, and being all over the board. And it does work whether your the owner offering or receiving the offer as well as any other methods I’ve seen. It’s just that we know that doing it this way is based on the individual league’s format instead of a general approach. And as we mentioned, it removes a margin of error from when dealing with the format separately.

Third Step / IDP For IDP

The method works in a cut and dry way of thinking about evaluations. And especially brings the designated position versus designated position to the forefront of any offer. Because when there are the slightest of differences in scoring formats, it will increase or decrease the IDP values comparably. And if you would like to learn more about the three main base scoring formats, check out the IDP Bible HERE.

Third Step / IDP For Offensive Players

This scenario is always tough for the IDP owner that’s involved in a trade idea. And it will likely always be the IDP owner that ends up giving up a little value to get the job done, no matter what the projections in the format are. It is a general feeling for most fantasy football owners to value offensive players over defensive players.

So we’ll suggest a breaking point of one less of a tier value on the IDP side if you negotiate. But certainly don’t suggest starting there because championships can be won with a strong IDP squad just as easily as it can be with a flashy offensive squad in deeper formats. And always keep in mind, at least from my years of experience, viable IDP players are easier to come by on the waiver wire than offensive players.

Third Step / IDP For Draft Picks

So why should we double the tiers in this method? Because no matter how confident some owners are in drafting, draft picks are still lottery tickets. And take it from this IDP writer, you can see why I suggest this in this Rookie Success Rate article HERE. I also suggest extreme prejudice if we are the owner of a “known” player when accepting picks. But that’s just my opinion, you will come across those owners that just love picks, and will stand firm on those values.

Final Thoughts

One last time, Fantasy Football owners reading this have to keep in mind that the steps are to find a baseline in individual leagues. And after the league and the formats are set, the projections have to be trusted via the site you have chosen to play on. So be sure to choose wisely or even go as far as setting up an identical fake league on a site you do trust. Don’t laugh, this writer has done it, and it has paid off a few hundred times. 

And of course, we suggest using our Gridiron Ratings, Statistics, Articles, and the other content we have available when fine-tuning trades. But more importantly, use what you’re comfortable with if you’re going beyond the baseline level mentioned in this article. Because we all know, one bad trade can mean the difference of making the playoffs, and that’s the path to a championship.

If you found this article helpful, you may also be interested in “Drafting IDP Fantasy Football Methods”, located HERE.

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